Professor H. W. van der Merwe: former Director of the Centre for Intergroup Studies interview with Rupert Taylor, 23 November 1999, 6 Cambridge Road, Observatory, Cape Town
… and then a man greeted me as if he knew me, and that was Matthews Phosa, so I didn’t know him so I said to him ‘I’m … don’t remember it’, and he said ‘No, we have not met, I am Matthews Phosa, but I studied you on videotape to try to …