Beyers Naudé: former General-Secretary of the South African Council of Churches and before that Director of the Christian Institute interview with Rupert Taylor, 4 February 2000, Northcliff, Johannesburg
… to non-violence, and so it looks at - particularly in the 1980s - organizations like Idasa, the End Conscription … believed 18 years ago or even, or even in the heart of the 1980s, I mean..? Beyers: Well, you know, I think there’s a … Mandela was having negotiations with the government in the 1980s? I mean you had these meetings with… Beyers: No, I was …