Beyers Naudé: former General-Secretary of the South African Council of Churches and before that Director of the Christian Institute interview with Rupert Taylor, 4 February 2000, Northcliff, Johannesburg
… non-racial democracy. And increasingly I think that it, without - many people I’ve talked to would agree, but some don’t - but without the impact of these organizations promoting … that I would be meeting, you know, with members of the ANC without realizing that they were full members. Taylor: Yeah. …