Beyers Naudé: former General-Secretary of the South African Council of Churches and before that Director of the Christian Institute interview with Rupert Taylor, 4 February 2000, Northcliff, Johannesburg
… things could not remain where they were, and with that… as a result that he, you know, he simply made himself … within Lusaka… Beyers: Yes. But no, but I mean… as General Secretary of the SACC there were enough you know … …And so it was a really… I think that was a constraining factor on not only on, well certainly on the language and the …