Albie Sachs: SA Constitutional Court Judge interviewed by Rupert Taylor and Aubrey Lekwane, 24 March 1998, Johannesburg Constitutional Court
… it was a war with a civil component, I would say it was a popular political struggle with a military component. It was … enormously important role in Umkhonto we Sizwe, extremely popular, stories about him like abounded. And just talking, … a ‘good racist’. Yeah, and then Ronnie was also very very popular, and by all accounts very brave, he must have gone in …